Valley Hammer
4:08 Mon Nov 3
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I take your point Eerie but I think it was only in his latter years that people began to like him. For many years he was one of the most disliked characters in the game.
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Eerie Descent
4:03 Mon Nov 3
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I didn’t mean likeable as in you want him as your best mate, I’m talking about the persona, he had a character that a lot of people like in one way or the other.
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13 Brentford Rd
4:01 Mon Nov 3
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*Fergie*
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13 Brentford Rd
4:00 Mon Nov 3
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Has anyone on here actually said Feris overated?
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1941
4:00 Mon Nov 3
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Ancelotti very over rated as a manager.
He actually isn't a football manager, more a PR manager.
He is paid to keep the highest footballers in the world happy, at chelsea, PSG and Madrdid, but does no actual managing and doesn't leave any club with anything when he leaves.
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Valley Hammer
3:58 Mon Nov 3
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Eerie Descent 1:50 Mon Nov 3
No one ever described Clough as likable when he was in his pomp.
Just the other day I happened to watch the famous interview he did at Yorkshire TV with Revie after he had just been sacked by Leeds and I would describe him as anything but likable.
His description of Tomakevski as a 'clown' (? spelling probably wrong) after England had been knocked out of the WC qualifier by Poland in 1973 was nothing short of crass.
I think he mellowed in later years and there is some misty eyed nostalgia about his methods when you see him featured on the likes of Football Focus.
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Thunderlips
3:52 Mon Nov 3
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The bloke at Yids
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The Joker
3:45 Mon Nov 3
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Alex Ferguson is overrated? Only on WHO!
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Valley Hammer
3:42 Mon Nov 3
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Ferguson was on the verge of being sacked when he turned things around and the rest, as they say is history. Obnoxious twat that he is, he is definitely not over rated and I can't see anyone getting anywhere near his record of achievement - ever.
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Takashi Miike
3:26 Mon Nov 3
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im not a fan of ferguson. to me he's a charmless bully cunt but there's no way you could ever call him overrated. his record in the premier league will never be equalled and his aberdeen/manc teams always tried to win with attacking football
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Lily Hammer
3:23 Mon Nov 3
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Man u was a mess of a drinking den when Ferguson took over. A big fat wheezing giant with a nasty case of piles. The "giant" aspect is little help to a club when you consider the other aspects.
The club was a dying beached whale when he took over. History is pretty clear on the (not instant) change he made at the club.
History is busy updating itself on how the club does in its life after Ferguson.
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Rossal
3:14 Mon Nov 3
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Mourinho runs fergie close if we are going to base it on trophies and the fact he has done it in 3 different leagues at alot of top clubs
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13 Brentford Rd
3:11 Mon Nov 3
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FC, Man U were already a massive club when Fergie joined them!
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ironsofcanada
2:42 Mon Nov 3
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Certainly easy to judge managers harshly early in their careers.
Marcello Lippi spent the first 7 years of his career at 6 different Italian lower league clubs with a winning percentage that never exceeded 30% and was as low as 14%.
Even after making it to Serie A, he never broke 50% until he reached Juve.
Make me wonder why we pine so much for young managers.
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Baggins
2:25 Mon Nov 3
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People talk so much nonsense about managers.
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penners28
2:18 Mon Nov 3
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love it when people claim fergie was a shit manager. probably same people who claim lampard jr is a shit player as well!
fergie took a struggling utd team and completely changed them as a club and team. if there were any proof needed of how good he actually was, look at how they are getting on without him...
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barkinghammer
2:09 Mon Nov 3
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loads of CHOMPING going on here today
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Eerie Descent
1:59 Mon Nov 3
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I think Glenn Roeder would've won the Champions League with that Real Madrid team last year.
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Far Cough
1:56 Mon Nov 3
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arce, it's all Relative
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leave my arcelona
1:56 Mon Nov 3
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Eerie Descent 1:50 Mon Nov 3
Einstein knew fuck all about zonal marking though
Silly old sod
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ironsofcanada
1:54 Mon Nov 3
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_Cup_and_UEFA_Champions_League_winning_managers
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